{"id":21056,"date":"2022-11-22T22:54:42","date_gmt":"2022-11-23T03:54:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ontariohealthcoalition.ca\/?p=21056"},"modified":"2022-12-16T23:02:34","modified_gmt":"2022-12-17T04:02:34","slug":"new-fee-for-patients-who-refuse-ltc-transfer-a-non-starter-son-says","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ontariohealthcoalition.ca\/index.php\/new-fee-for-patients-who-refuse-ltc-transfer-a-non-starter-son-says\/","title":{"rendered":"New fee for patients who refuse LTC transfer a &#8216;non-starter,&#8217; son says"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>(November 21, 2022)<\/p>\n<p>By: <span class=\"authorText\">Guy Quenneville,<\/span><span class=\"bullet\">\u00a0<\/span>CBC News<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/i.cbc.ca\/1.6557032.1668979422!\/fileImage\/httpImage\/image.jpg_gen\/derivatives\/original_780\/rainer-pethke-and-mom.jpg\" width=\"469\" height=\"352\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>Rainer Pethke of Berwick, Ont., poses here with his 95-year-old mother Hilde.\u00a0(Submitted by Rainer Pethke)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Sooner or later, 95-year-old Hilde Pethke\u00a0is going to fall, break her hip and need\u00a0medical care, her son says \u2014 and that could leave her &#8220;struggling in a home far away from loved ones.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>As of Sunday, Ontario hospitals can\u00a0charge patients awaiting spots in long-term care\u00a0<span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><a style=\"color: #3366ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/canada\/toronto\/ontario-more-beds-better-care-act-1.6658350\">$400 a day if they\u00a0refuse\u00a0to move\u00a0to a temporary home<\/a><\/span>\u00a0chosen for them by\u00a0a placement co-ordinator.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s part of the controversial Bill 7, which took effect in September and put into gear the process for assessing and moving patients\u00a0who&#8217;ve been discharged from a hospital but are clinically determined to need ongoing care.<\/p>\n<p>A parallel change to\u00a0the province&#8217;s\u00a0Public Hospitals Act regulations requires hospitals to charge this\u00a0daily fee to patients.<\/p>\n<p>The transfers\u00a0are\u00a0meant to open up hospital beds for other patients until\u00a0a spot in one of the patient&#8217;s preferred long-term care homes opens up, the province has said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It frees up hospital beds so that people waiting for surgeries can get them sooner,&#8221; the Ministry\u00a0of Health and Long-Term Care said in an emailed statement Monday. &#8220;It eases pressures on crowded emergency departments by admitting patients sooner.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h3>&#8216;It would probably be the end of her&#8217;<\/h3>\n<p>Under the new rules, hospital patients in southern Ontario can be moved up to 70 kilometres away.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s too far for comfort for Rainer Pethke, whose mother Hilde has a frail hip that makes her susceptible to a fall and hospital admission.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s how you get into long-term care these days,&#8221; Pethke said.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/i.cbc.ca\/1.5965251.1666209637!\/fileImage\/httpImage\/image.jpg_gen\/derivatives\/original_780\/virus-outbreak-nursing-homes.jpg\" width=\"554\" height=\"289\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>The Ontario government&#8217;s controversial Bill\u00a07, which took effect in September, put into gear the process for assessing and moving discharged patients who are clinically determined to require\u00a0continued care\u00a0\u2014 but not in a hospital.\u00a0\u00a0(The Associated Press)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Pethke said his mother&#8217;s first choice for a\u00a0long-term care facility\u00a0is a mere 25 kilometres from her home of 30 years in Berwick, Ont., southeast of Ottawa.<\/p>\n<p>But she&#8217;s been on a wait-list there for years, Pethke said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;My mom, at 95, could not survive\u00a0being moved into a place far away from her family,&#8221; said Pethke, adding that\u00a0Hilde suffers from some dementia.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It would probably be the end of her.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>As for a potential $400 charge? &#8220;That&#8217;s a non-starter,&#8221; Pethke said.<\/p>\n<h3>Charter challenge coming: coalition<\/h3>\n<p>According to\u00a0<span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><a style=\"color: #3366ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/canada\/ottawa\/hospital-bill-7-patients-room-choice-charge-1.6658196#memo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a memorandum to health-care partners<\/a>\u00a0<\/span>obtained by CBC, the province says it is &#8220;committed to ensuring patients are compassionately and respectfully supported as they transition to long-term care, where their health and personal care needs can be met and their independence, safety, and quality of life enhanced.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/canada\/ottawa\/hospital-bill-7-patients-room-choice-charge-1.6658196\">Ontario Health Coalition<\/a> and other groups, however, have said\u00a0the new rules\u00a0erode\u00a0patient rights.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s the hammer,&#8221;\u00a0executive director Natalie Mehra said of charging\u00a0patients. &#8220;Since most people can&#8217;t afford $400 a\u00a0day, they&#8217;ll go.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The coalition and\u00a0the Toronto-based\u00a0Advocacy Centre for the Elderly are planning to announce details Monday of a charter challenge that they&#8217;ll be launching against Bill 7.<\/p>\n<p>Mehra said the coalition has heard of patients being threatened with the fines\u00a0even before the legal mechanism kicked in on Sunday.<\/p>\n<p>The fee won&#8217;t be charged until 24 hours after the patient is discharged but refuses to budge, according to the memorandum. It also says patients and families with concerns during the process are encouraged to reach out to their hospital&#8217;s patient relations office.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/canada\/ottawa\/hospital-bill-7-patients-room-choice-charge-1.6658196\"><em><strong>Read the full memorandum about the changes below.\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><a style=\"color: #3366ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/assets.documentcloud.org\/documents\/23314962\/0914-en-joint-mltc-moh-dm-oh-memo-bill-7-20220914-final.pdf\">Mobile users: View the document<\/a><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><a style=\"color: #3366ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/assets.documentcloud.org\/documents\/23314962\/0914-en-joint-mltc-moh-dm-oh-memo-bill-7-20220914-final.pdf\">(PDF\u00a0KB)<\/a><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><a style=\"color: #3366ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/assets.documentcloud.org\/documents\/23314962\/0914-en-joint-mltc-moh-dm-oh-memo-bill-7-20220914-final.txt\">(Text\u00a0KB)<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><a style=\"color: #3366ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/canada\/ottawa\/hospital-bill-7-patients-room-choice-charge-1.6658196\">Click here for original article<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(November 21, 2022) By: Guy Quenneville,\u00a0CBC News Rainer Pethke of Berwick, Ont., poses here with his 95-year-old mother Hilde.\u00a0(Submitted by Rainer Pethke) Sooner or later, 95-year-old Hilde Pethke\u00a0is going to fall, break her hip and need\u00a0medical care, her son says \u2014 and that could leave her &#8220;struggling in a home far away from loved ones.&#8221; 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