{"id":29764,"date":"2024-09-05T10:49:49","date_gmt":"2024-09-05T14:49:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ontariohealthcoalition.ca\/?p=29764"},"modified":"2024-09-17T10:12:53","modified_gmt":"2024-09-17T14:12:53","slug":"ontario-hospital-patient-fined-28600-for-refusing-to-go-to-long-term-care-home","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ontariohealthcoalition.ca\/index.php\/ontario-hospital-patient-fined-28600-for-refusing-to-go-to-long-term-care-home\/","title":{"rendered":"Ontario hospital patient fined $28,600 for refusing to go to long-term care home"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>(September 4, 2024)<\/p>\n<p>By: Jack Hauen, The Trillium<\/p>\n<p>An Ontario woman says her mother was fined more than $28,000 for refusing a long-term care home placement not of her choosing.<\/p>\n<p>Under the Ford government&#8217;s Bill 7, the More Beds, Better Care Act, hospitals can charge a fee of $400 per day to patients who decline to move to long-term care homes chosen for them. The homes can be up to 70 kilometres away in southern Ontario or 150 kilometres away in the north.<\/p>\n<p>Five patients were fined between September 2022, when the law took effect, and April 15, 2024, for stays between 13 to 93 days, according to the Ministry of Health.<\/p>\n<p>The new data came from a freedom-of-information request filed by The Trillium for the total dollar amount levied under the legislation. As it has in the past, the province refused to divulge that figure.<\/p>\n<p>Previously, the government said seven people had been fined under the More Beds, Better Care Act. That was a counting error, the ministry said \u2014 the real number is five.<\/p>\n<p>Michele Campeau said her mother, Ruth Poupard, was hit with the 93-day fine.<\/p>\n<p>Poupard, who is 83 and has dementia, went to H\u00f4tel-Dieu Grace Healthcare in Windsor after breaking her hip. When a hospital deems that a patient&#8217;s status is no longer acute, they can be charged as an &#8220;alternate level of care&#8221; (ALC) patient at the rate of a basic long-term care room.<\/p>\n<p>In Poupard&#8217;s case, this cost about $2,600 for 28 days, according to receipts Campeau showed The Trillium.<\/p>\n<p>Once a patient is designated as ALC, hospital placement coordinators can choose a nursing home for an ALC patient, send personal health information to the home, and authorize their admission, without the patient&#8217;s consent.<\/p>\n<p>Once Campeau refused the hospital&#8217;s proposed home, the higher fines kicked in. For about the next two months, Poupard was charged $400 per day, Campeau said.<\/p>\n<p>Her final bill: $28,640.02.<\/p>\n<p>Eventually, Campeau was able to get her mother into her number 1 long-term care home choice \u2014 right in the middle of all her kids, so they can visit her easily.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;She&#8217;s very well taken care of. This home is one of the best I&#8217;ve ever experienced,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>Still, the fine remains. Campeau said she doesn&#8217;t plan to pay it.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They&#8217;re never getting a dime,&#8221; she said. &#8220;I will fight it to the end.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;This is intimidation. This is \u2014 I don&#8217;t even know what you call it, besides elder abuse and extortion,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ford government defends law advocates call &#8216;ageist&#8217;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Health Minister Sylvia Jones&#8217; office said Bill 7 has worked. The number of patients being discharged from &#8220;alternate level of care&#8221; stays has increased 34 per cent, and the length of the average ALC stay has reached an all-time low \u2014 nearly half as long as it was in 2019.<\/p>\n<p>The law &#8220;ensures Ontarians are receiving the care they need, in a setting that is right for them,&#8221; spokesperson Hannah Jensen said in a statement.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s &#8220;ageism,&#8221; said Vivian Stamatopoulos, a long-term care researcher and advocate at Ontario Tech University. She blamed the Ford government for failing to adequately fund hospitals.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;And then who suffers the most? It ends up being the seniors who are deemed disposable in this process,&#8221; she said. &#8220;Why save their life, when we can try to save the younger person?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Natalie Mehra, the executive director of the Ontario Health Coalition, said she&#8217;s spoken to numerous families that have been pressured out of hospitals into inappropriate care spaces.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Routinely, this is what it looks like,&#8221; she said. An elderly man has a fall. He goes to the hospital. When his acute care is done, &#8220;he can&#8217;t go home anymore. That&#8217;s the end of the line for him,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>The hospital will then &#8220;pour on the pressure to get him out, to anywhere,&#8221; including making promises of home care or the quality of a long-term care home that may not be true, Mehra said. &#8220;It doesn&#8217;t matter whether the care is appropriate or not. It doesn&#8217;t matter. They just want the bed.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI just think it\u2019s reprehensible. It\u2019s inhumane. It\u2019s awful,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>CanAge CEO Laura Tamblyn Watts said eroding medical consent is a &#8220;slippery slope.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a fundamental question of government taking away the right to consent, and that&#8217;s something everyone should be very worried about,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>The law is the subject of a charter challenge, which will be heard later this month.<\/p>\n<p>As for the bill, Campeau said no one has contacted her about it.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They don&#8217;t know what to do,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s unclear if any of the five patients&#8217; fines were ongoing, or if any had been collected, as of the ministry&#8217;s response.<\/p>\n<p>Campeau said she had some advice for Jones: &#8220;Take care of our seniors, because they probably voted you guys in in the first place,&#8221; she said. &#8220;Let&#8217;s not forget them.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><a style=\"color: #3366ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thetrillium.ca\/news\/health\/ontario-hospital-patient-fined-28600-for-refusing-to-go-to-long-term-care-home-9472082\">Click here for the original article<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(September 4, 2024) By: Jack Hauen, The Trillium An Ontario woman says her mother was fined more than $28,000 for refusing a long-term care home placement not of her choosing. 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